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pug on toast wrote:

>tfw so useless people don't even notice you're being useless

Actually, I don't expect people to notice me, because although I've been semi-active, it's all been stuff nobody would notice. Cleaning up style/grammar on entries, banning spambots, etc. Before I was made a Database Moderator, I was a Forum Moderator, but even when I was active on the forums I didn't use those mod abilities much. I don't believe in locking threads or suspending for shitposting, so what is there for me to do?

I dunno. I would give some more reviews of the new mods and some older ones I missed, but I still don't know too many of them enough and what they do as a mod to be able to give a full, legit review. I could give character reviews instead of what they actually do as a mod, but that doesn't really help and is more personal than objective. Well, I have a nice little review for the three new media mods.


Jacob, Delta, and Loli:

You guys are awesome at your job. It's almost like a full-time thing for you three and you're always working to improve the site like one big, well-oiled machine with the three of you working together. The fact that you're all passionate about improving the image galleries makes your work even better and more thorough. For quite a while many people including myself have known you would all make good media mod material. You were already working hard at improving the galleries when you were just normal users and the lack of mod powers was just kind of holding you guys back. Now that you're all decked out, you can do so much more.

Much Needed Update:

BSoD: Super Sexy Cool Guy
RandomMan: God-Tier Sexy Cool Guy
Crimson Locks: Super Serial
Random 21: Super Duper Super Serial, I'm a little tsundere for him BAKA!
Captain Blubber: Shitposter Funposter
Brucker: Background Decoration
Natsuru Springfield: Newfag Mod that confuses my penis, also draws stuff
HolyCrapItsBob: Competent
Verbose: Who?

BSoD: good forum mod. he does his job well for the most part, from what i've seen.
RandomMan: a dumb does his job well when things arrive, and that's what important.
Crimson Locks: good mod, except for the fact that you don't use your powers often. or at least from what i've seen, what do i know.
Random 21: U STOLE MY IMAGE GSALERYES I H8 U works hard as an entry mod, though can be a little bit too undecisive at times.
Captain Blubber: riff raff poster 4 lyfe
Brucker: old man
Natsuru: you've done a good job so far.
HolyCrapItsBob: apart from being the ever most condescending, good, blunt mod that gets things done.
Jacob: does a good job at moderating images.
Deltamelon: same as above.
Loli: what are you, a media mod? yeah, yeah 10/10 good job.
Platus: when you actually do things they're good
madcat: same as above
anyone else: make contributions if you want reviews bruh

The mods mean well. They do a great job of running the site, they edit images and videos with proper tags as needed, and overall their comments and forum threads are well-made and they deserve the positions they hold on this site. Their social skills on the IRC make me want to gag.

well, this is the first time i see such emotionally driven & openly lying mod :3

please have a look

you also can look at what i was going to reply, but cant do that, cuz it seems that this mod can start offtop without geting warned or something, and then give me warnings, based on mods offtop.
i can just observe it safely  ^_^

>>HolyCrapItsBob
>> Once again, not the place for any of this. Consider this a warning, stay on topic.

regarding offtopic starter, have a look:

i started topic with concrete propositions. even came with technical notes on optimizing server load ^_^
every of my posts in this thread(except this & reply on your offtopic) has ontopic info. it was you, who has submitted entirely offtopic post by starting conducting unrelated philosophical conclusions, also mentioning that its(your conclusions) are complete offtopic in this thread and cannot be posted in the first place) then i was too stupid to reply to it right in this thread, especially seeing your initial "philosophical" reaction)

and you also have doubled your offtopic by posting second complete offtopic(in reply to mine) to the thread although you could have send it to my pm(like i writing this offtop post to your pm now instead of that thread).

i will not make screenshots with ontopic info in each of my posts except this one & one with reply on your offtopic. please kindly ask others to open your eyes for you.

&its not my problem that u dont like other additional info i supplied in order to explain underlying complexity of the question – please kindly leave your emotions & pure philosophical thoughts to yourself if you are unable to process useful details and come up with something specific and related

>>HolyCrapItsBob
>>You came in here with your “I don’t wanna change” bullshit.

this is complete lie, there is no such thing in my posts(especially like you quoted). otherwise, please be so kind to show it  ^_^

also, please let me correct my self, actually: there is near to zero philosophy in my posts, i just have described how things r working & only with a couple of conclusions. u was the one who started pure unrelated philosophy here, by conducting non-relevant(at all) conclusions using "rotten" terms, and without any specific details.

this is my last offtopic post here, it seems that this topic is closed for me(i dont want to get warning for my ontopic).

somehow(i am new on forums :3 ) i also have some positive feedback :3 reading lisalombs-derailed threads, i was surprised of how merciful mods here are, giving warnings one by one before taking actions :3 so HolyCrapItsBob was like heart attack to me after that  ^_^ ("heart attack" because of no offtopic from my side)

Last edited Aug 14, 2015 at 07:43PM EDT

- - wrote:

well, this is the first time i see such emotionally driven & openly lying mod :3

please have a look

you also can look at what i was going to reply, but cant do that, cuz it seems that this mod can start offtop without geting warned or something, and then give me warnings, based on mods offtop.
i can just observe it safely  ^_^

>>HolyCrapItsBob
>> Once again, not the place for any of this. Consider this a warning, stay on topic.

regarding offtopic starter, have a look:

i started topic with concrete propositions. even came with technical notes on optimizing server load ^_^
every of my posts in this thread(except this & reply on your offtopic) has ontopic info. it was you, who has submitted entirely offtopic post by starting conducting unrelated philosophical conclusions, also mentioning that its(your conclusions) are complete offtopic in this thread and cannot be posted in the first place) then i was too stupid to reply to it right in this thread, especially seeing your initial "philosophical" reaction)

and you also have doubled your offtopic by posting second complete offtopic(in reply to mine) to the thread although you could have send it to my pm(like i writing this offtop post to your pm now instead of that thread).

i will not make screenshots with ontopic info in each of my posts except this one & one with reply on your offtopic. please kindly ask others to open your eyes for you.

&its not my problem that u dont like other additional info i supplied in order to explain underlying complexity of the question – please kindly leave your emotions & pure philosophical thoughts to yourself if you are unable to process useful details and come up with something specific and related

>>HolyCrapItsBob
>>You came in here with your “I don’t wanna change” bullshit.

this is complete lie, there is no such thing in my posts(especially like you quoted). otherwise, please be so kind to show it  ^_^

also, please let me correct my self, actually: there is near to zero philosophy in my posts, i just have described how things r working & only with a couple of conclusions. u was the one who started pure unrelated philosophy here, by conducting non-relevant(at all) conclusions using "rotten" terms, and without any specific details.

this is my last offtopic post here, it seems that this topic is closed for me(i dont want to get warning for my ontopic).

somehow(i am new on forums :3 ) i also have some positive feedback :3 reading lisalombs-derailed threads, i was surprised of how merciful mods here are, giving warnings one by one before taking actions :3 so HolyCrapItsBob was like heart attack to me after that  ^_^ ("heart attack" because of no offtopic from my side)

I present the post


Philosophy, noun; the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

Are you honestly going to tell me that none of that is philosophical? That all of that was relevant to the discussion?

I understand that you're upset that I made you realize that no one gives a damn about your friends and your desires, but lying to make yourself feel better about it? Now that's just an all-time low.

But don't even try to paint this as my fault. You come in here, talk about stupid junk that is irrelevant to the discussion; and when I tell you to stop going off topic, you call me a liar?

You're really something else. I mean, we've had some childish users, but you really take the cake. Remember, you reap what you sow, and I'm going to personally enjoy it.

Last edited Aug 14, 2015 at 09:25PM EDT

>>Are you honestly going to tell me that none of that is philosophical?

i have never told that, i have told exactly this:
>>there is near to zero philosophy in my posts

>>You come in here, talk about stupid junk that is irrelevant to the discussion

would you please kindly read again:
>>every of my posts in this thread(except this & reply on your offtopic) has ontopic info.

would you please kindly check definitions of each of these words in this statement, using collins dictionary, then go to the thread and check every of my posts, to find that relevant details are in each of my posts. after that u will automatically succeed in logical check of aforementioned statement. only after that u will see that your original statement is invalid(lie)

>> and when I tell you to stop going off topic, you call me a liar?

this statement is not valid(ie also lie). kindly let me demonstrate this:

>>>>HolyCrapItsBob
>>>>You came in here with your “I don’t wanna change” bullshit.

>>this is complete lie, there is no such thing in my posts(especially like you quoted). otherwise, please be so kind to show it _

>>and I’m going to personally enjoy it.

exactly as i said earlier:

>>>> this is the first time i see such emotionally[irrelevant data omitted] driven mod :3

>> You’re really something else. I mean, we’ve had some childish users, but you really take the cake.
>> Remember, you reap what you sow,

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

>> that I made you realize that no one gives a damn about your friends and your desires

that was not the topic of that thread, nor it was mentioned in my posts.

>> I understand that you’re upset , but lying to make yourself feel better about it? Now that’s just an all-time low.

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

>> Remember, you reap what you sow,

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

Last edited Aug 14, 2015 at 10:26PM EDT
>>Are you honestly going to tell me that none of that is philosophical?

i have never told that, i have told exactly this:
>>there is near to zero philosophy in my posts

>>You come in here, talk about stupid junk that is irrelevant to the discussion

would you please kindly read again:
>>every of my posts in this thread(except this & reply on your offtopic) has ontopic info.

would you please kindly check definitions of each of these words in this statement, using collins dictionary, then go to the thread and check every of my posts, to find that relevant details are in each of my posts. after that u will automatically succeed in logical check of aforementioned statement. only after that u will see that your original statement is invalid(lie)

I present this post again.

A good portion of that thread deals with philosophical ideas, none of which has any bearing on the discussion. You really need to stop lying, it's only hurting your argument.


kindly let me demonstrate this:

>>>>HolyCrapItsBob
>>>>You came in here with your “I don’t wanna change” bullshit.

>>this is complete lie, there is no such thing in my posts(especially like you quoted). otherwise, please be so kind to show it _

And I present this

Within the same post I presented not too long ago. It's becoming really apparent to me that you don't even read your own posts.


>>and I’m going to personally enjoy it.

exactly as i said earlier:

>>>> this is the first time i see such emotionally[irrelevant data omitted] driven mod :3

>> You’re really something else. I mean, we’ve had some childish users, but you really take the cake. Remember, you reap what you sow,

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

>> that I made you realize that no one gives a damn about your friends and your desires

that was not the topic of that thread, nor it was mentioned in my posts.

>> I understand that you’re upset , but lying to make yourself feel better about it? Now that’s just an all-time low.

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

>> Remember, you reap what you sow,

this is completely irrelevant to current discussion, this not helping the discussion in any way.

All of that is my reaction to talking to a yellow liar. I'd say it's all relevant.


So, to tally up the score. You made three points. Two were lies and the last was just wrong. 0/3 is an F. Congratulations.

Last edited Aug 14, 2015 at 10:44PM EDT

you still have not bakedup any of your statements.

all of my statements are backedup and proving that you are lying (i described in great detail(specifically for you) how to check that all of my statements are backedup(read:valid/true)). i will not answer any of your questions until you backup all of your statements successfully. or any other mod will look into this and require me to do something).

you have started to throw claims and later even warned me that u will take action based on your claims. that was my problem – cuz i cannot post in that thread anymore because u said u will take an action as a reaction to my ontopic which, as you claim, is offtopic

am leaving this now for other observers, capable of seeing such obvious things i described.

- - wrote:

you still have not bakedup any of your statements.

all of my statements are backedup and proving that you are lying (i described in great detail(specifically for you) how to check that all of my statements are backedup(read:valid/true)). i will not answer any of your questions until you backup all of your statements successfully. or any other mod will look into this and require me to do something).

you have started to throw claims and later even warned me that u will take action based on your claims. that was my problem – cuz i cannot post in that thread anymore because u said u will take an action as a reaction to my ontopic which, as you claim, is offtopic

am leaving this now for other observers, capable of seeing such obvious things i described.

Now I'm convinced you're either a troll or…require special attention. Either way, I see there's no point to this conversation anymore. Mods have little tolerance for trolls, so this all works out either way.

am leaving this now for other observers, capable of seeing such obvious things i described.

The only thing I see here is two idiots derailing a thread into a personal fight. Take it to Bob's wall or somewhere else.

Bob you too. Can't you prove him wrong somewhere else? I don't think the rest of us wants to see all that crap.


Now that I have an excuse to finally post in this thread, I'd like to see more reviews. I AM NOT ASKING FOR A REVIEW.

I'm just saying we haven't had reviews for a while and now that we have new mods perhaps it's time for another evaluation of the mod team.

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Loli wrote:

am leaving this now for other observers, capable of seeing such obvious things i described.

The only thing I see here is two idiots derailing a thread into a personal fight. Take it to Bob's wall or somewhere else.

Bob you too. Can't you prove him wrong somewhere else? I don't think the rest of us wants to see all that crap.


Now that I have an excuse to finally post in this thread, I'd like to see more reviews. I AM NOT ASKING FOR A REVIEW.

I'm just saying we haven't had reviews for a while and now that we have new mods perhaps it's time for another evaluation of the mod team.

I think the moderators should consider anger-management counseling and reconsider the language they use to convey their feelings.

Loli wrote:

am leaving this now for other observers, capable of seeing such obvious things i described.

The only thing I see here is two idiots derailing a thread into a personal fight. Take it to Bob's wall or somewhere else.

Bob you too. Can't you prove him wrong somewhere else? I don't think the rest of us wants to see all that crap.


Now that I have an excuse to finally post in this thread, I'd like to see more reviews. I AM NOT ASKING FOR A REVIEW.

I'm just saying we haven't had reviews for a while and now that we have new mods perhaps it's time for another evaluation of the mod team.

Is it even possible to derail a dead thread?

@Loli:

>>I don’t think the rest of us wants to see all that crap.

i've posted here only because of this:

>>The only thing I see here is two idiots

https://knowyourmeme.com/blog/rules-and-guidelines/

"If you observe a user breaking a rule, try advising the user in the right direction, rather than posting insults or harsh criticisms."

@HolyCrapItsBob
>>Is it even possible to derail a dead thread?

this thread cant be dead forever, therefore it can be alive sometimes.

& yes, u r derailing this thread by your post

you have started derailing it when posted this post, against the thread rules:

& yes, i am derailing it too now, but unlike your case, this is the last trouble i will ever deliver to this place as a registered user because i am leaving this place forever(as a registered user)

Last edited Aug 18, 2015 at 10:58AM EDT

Loli wrote:

^ Please stop. I'm not saying it again.

To be honest, you should probably utilize PM's in this situation. That will stop a lot of the derailing.

As for the actual purpose of the thread, I think the mod base tends to be diverse and allows for users to approach a moderator of their choice and preference without getting an entirely different opinion from the site's rules. I have no issue with the overall moderation of the site.

But if I could offer constructive criticism, I'd suggest using PM more often in general. First, it's less likely to inflame a user, because they feel embarrassed. If they're not as embarrassed, then they may be more inclined to listen to what you're trying to say over defending their pride. Yes, they may be embarrassing themselves in the first place, but I believe it is more important to simply address the matter without starting more shit, even if you're not at fault.

Second, it prevents derails and helps keep your name out of the drama. Much like referees in sports, you should be a constant and fair presence on the site, and I believe the moderation unit functions as a single unit to be fair and upright. The informal checks and balances among moderators here is outstanding.

But also like referees, it's not a good thing to have an issue revolve around you. As a rule of thumb, I think it's a bad sign if a situation can easily be perceived as "user vs. mod." The matter can probably be resolved privately among just a few parties and then the ultimate outcome can be succinctly communicated to the relevant parties once the dirty, angry, stuff is dealt with.

To be honest, you should probably utilize PM’s in this situation.

^ This, right here.

There are so many problems that the mod/user situation runs into that could be solved with a simple PM. Seriously, if you think that there's something wrong with what a mod is doing – don't just sit there and grumble, and don't passive-agressively post about it on a thread; contact them and (politely! constructively!) say what you think the problem it.

We don't bite. And we don't screw up intentionally. If you're not acting like an asshole, we'll listen to you.

Just allowing the problem to simmer not only keeps it from being solved, but it also means that when the issue comes to light it will do so in the least constructive way possible. If you have a problem with a mod, do you really think derailing a thread is going to solve it? Because the most likely result of that is you getting in trouble.

It's almost always a good idea to prefer handling something quietly in private with the people concerned over making a huge public call-out.

Last edited Aug 18, 2015 at 01:04PM EDT

I want this to return to topic, so I've decided to review Twisty.

Starting off, his English is poor. This usually isn't really a big deal, but considering the job of an entry mod is to write entries exclusively in English, it becomes an issue.

Secondly, he doesn't edit frequently. This is shown by the fact that he has the least amount of edits of entry moderator staff. Although he has the 2nd highest entries created of all basic entry mods, this shows a lack of precision, especially with the language barrier. Twisty's entries are messy and use too many references, along with a lack of proper grammar. He will often put his entries in researching despite his entries needing a heavy portion of work before it's really deserved of the researching title.

To be fair to Twisty, when he was made a mod, there weren't really a lot of good possible entry mods. Since the mod upgrade, there have been multiple users that have done a better job at entry work, even without the ability to edit entries at whim. The two other mods from the update, Onion Syrup and Peacock Roy have done miles of work above what Twisty has done so far. Twisty still creates entries, but it's at a much slower, messier rate then his peers.

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im sorry if i been really inactive doing any work.

aat this point i focus too much in college and my music that it barely leaves me time to actually research entries, only to make occasional posts on the forum and be in chats.

I signed up the other day to upload images about "Cultural Marxism" because I think it's a ridiculous theory – and this moderator "Platus" sents me a warning message "not to spam the gallery" – but every picture I uploaded about the meme was related to the meme.

So I told him off for telling me off about contributing content.

@fickbowt care to show the images in question? You may be right but there's no way to know if you don't show us.

Hmmm. Judging by your uploads, I don't think they are meant to show how the theory is ridiculous. Anyway yeah, they are related to the entry. I guess he meant not to clog the gallery with too many examples.

Reading the definition, many of those images have pretty much nothing to do with cultural Marxism the way I read the initial definition (an onion comic about processed meats? How does that have anything to do with it?) However, it seems to be that the definition changed to a general complaints about the left wing, which makes no sense to me personally. But if cultural Marxism is as poorly defined as just dislike of the left as opposed to an actual solid point I guess they are relevant no matter how wrong they are. Of course, poorly defined entries are generally good candidates for a lock.

Well I got banned from the IRC and muted in the IRC and kicked from the IRC, the latter happening about 10 times a day, the second one happening three times a day, and the former happening about once or twice every day. And they're all justified with 'we don't like you and find you annoying.'

Asking for other mods to help with this resulted in one of them saying the equivalent of 'i don't want to, it'll just make people mad,' and gave a bunch of petty excuses. Another one named Synge at least made an effort because he could tell 'hm maybe this isn't fair' and tried unbanning though apparently nobody taught all the mods how to use the commands properly so he wasn't able to do anything.

So here is my review: Sir-Soundwave repeatedly kicks and mutes if you talk about stuff he doesn't like and is ego-tripping, NotLoli will actively hold a grudge and use her abilities to kick and mute simply because she dislikes you, and the vast majority of mods are incapable of undoing what other mods do out of fear of looking bad or simply not caring.

I'm sure the mods will look keenly upon this review and reflect upon it, fixing the errors of their ways and learn from this, instead of redoubling efforts to actively censor me and chalk any criticism of what they're doing up to 'hurr durr mod ab00se.'

If anything I've said is incorrect please logically explain why.

Edit: Happy Thanksgiving. :D

Last edited Nov 26, 2015 at 11:31AM EST

Emperor Palpitoad wrote:

Well I got banned from the IRC and muted in the IRC and kicked from the IRC, the latter happening about 10 times a day, the second one happening three times a day, and the former happening about once or twice every day. And they're all justified with 'we don't like you and find you annoying.'

Asking for other mods to help with this resulted in one of them saying the equivalent of 'i don't want to, it'll just make people mad,' and gave a bunch of petty excuses. Another one named Synge at least made an effort because he could tell 'hm maybe this isn't fair' and tried unbanning though apparently nobody taught all the mods how to use the commands properly so he wasn't able to do anything.

So here is my review: Sir-Soundwave repeatedly kicks and mutes if you talk about stuff he doesn't like and is ego-tripping, NotLoli will actively hold a grudge and use her abilities to kick and mute simply because she dislikes you, and the vast majority of mods are incapable of undoing what other mods do out of fear of looking bad or simply not caring.

I'm sure the mods will look keenly upon this review and reflect upon it, fixing the errors of their ways and learn from this, instead of redoubling efforts to actively censor me and chalk any criticism of what they're doing up to 'hurr durr mod ab00se.'

If anything I've said is incorrect please logically explain why.

Edit: Happy Thanksgiving. :D

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Last edited Nov 26, 2015 at 11:39AM EST

Emperor Palpitoad wrote:

Well I got banned from the IRC and muted in the IRC and kicked from the IRC, the latter happening about 10 times a day, the second one happening three times a day, and the former happening about once or twice every day. And they're all justified with 'we don't like you and find you annoying.'

Asking for other mods to help with this resulted in one of them saying the equivalent of 'i don't want to, it'll just make people mad,' and gave a bunch of petty excuses. Another one named Synge at least made an effort because he could tell 'hm maybe this isn't fair' and tried unbanning though apparently nobody taught all the mods how to use the commands properly so he wasn't able to do anything.

So here is my review: Sir-Soundwave repeatedly kicks and mutes if you talk about stuff he doesn't like and is ego-tripping, NotLoli will actively hold a grudge and use her abilities to kick and mute simply because she dislikes you, and the vast majority of mods are incapable of undoing what other mods do out of fear of looking bad or simply not caring.

I'm sure the mods will look keenly upon this review and reflect upon it, fixing the errors of their ways and learn from this, instead of redoubling efforts to actively censor me and chalk any criticism of what they're doing up to 'hurr durr mod ab00se.'

If anything I've said is incorrect please logically explain why.

Edit: Happy Thanksgiving. :D

You actually just raised a serious problem with IRC mods. I don't see how they should be mods if they ban people for petty reasons, for example I remember getting into an argument with 21 about some subject (I can't remember what). He ended up banning me from the IRC because of how much he didn't like it, and as such my ban was lifted by muffinlicious. At this point I guess it was "MOD ABOOS".

Another example is with Twilitlord in an argument about me responding to JJ threads and he genuinely argued that I should stop caring about the Israel/Palestine conflict. This particular subject is more important and serious than a lot of stuff that gets posted on this site, and so could he say I should not care about it. He ended up banning because of it.

Minty wrote:

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Thanks for quoting a multi paragraph long post so you can post an irrelevant response, to anything he just said.

As for Epyc's post, I agree that IRC mods, as well as regular users need to calm down when it comes to users such as Epyc. Treating them with unneeded anger is not the way to go around it. If the ban is justified (which it doesn't seem to be with Epyc) then taking action is necessary. However in Epyc's case, it seems unnecessary and disrespectful.

I'm interested in hearing what the mods in question have to say, especially about the justification on Epyc's bans.

@Ę̭͍̪p̠̞̍ͪy͎̹ͅc̱͔͗̍ W̼̯͉̐͞y̛̦̦nͧͪ̍ & Warriorman

Coincidentally, you two are the most troublematic users we had to deal with on the IRC.

I wonder why is that?

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Loli wrote:

@Ę̭͍̪p̠̞̍ͪy͎̹ͅc̱͔͗̍ W̼̯͉̐͞y̛̦̦nͧͪ̍ & Warriorman

Coincidentally, you two are the most troublematic users we had to deal with on the IRC.

I wonder why is that?

You are expected to explain if you just make a post like that. If I am able to respond to pointless discussion threads about some subject, why can't you respond to my post properly?

"ur annoying" is not a good enough response.

Last edited Nov 26, 2015 at 12:39PM EST

DCS WORLD wrote:

You are expected to explain if you just make a post like that. If I am able to respond to pointless discussion threads about some subject, why can't you respond to my post properly?

"ur annoying" is not a good enough response.

Your harassment case against an user on both, the site and the IRC. That time when you asked Don to ban derpy Vaz because he made a dumb fedora joke. There were so many more.

Back then when you started using the chat you were exactly like Epyc in regards to your attitude.

About Epyc, well, coming from time to time to tell us how much he hates us, what he did the other day…to be fair, his attitude as a whole is a problem.

He pushed Alex Mercer to unban him because "not using your powers to do the right thing is an example of why you shouldn't have them in the first place". Basically he told Mercer "Do as I say, otherwise youre not befitting to be a mod". Alex only wanted to stay away from the shitstorm because he didn't know what was going on.

The chat can be a cesspool of shit and a circlejerk, I give you that. But you guys have this ability to push all the people in there to the limits of their patience.

Last edited Nov 26, 2015 at 12:58PM EST
Your harassment case. That time when you asked Don to ban derpy Vaz because he made a dumb fedora joke. There where so many more.

Although this was never a reason for one of my bans, we both know that this issue has already been resolved.

Back then when you started using the chat you were exactly like Epyc in regards to your attitude.

Go into more detail why because that explanation was beyond vague. I don't see Epyc Wyn as a deplorable human being and you better convince me why.

He pushed Alex Mercer to unban him because “not using your powers to do the right thing is an example of why you shouldn’t have them in the first place”. Basically he told Mercer “Do as I say, otherwise youre not befitting to be a mod”. Alex only wanted to stay away from the shitstorm.

That sounds exactly like what moderators are supposed to do. You are basically saying that the Moderator's feelings are more important than doing the right thing. No one cares about your feelings when you are not doing the right thing.

Why don't y'all actually come to a consensus over whether you should ban or unban someone from the IRC before you do it on a whim? You do have a mod board you could have these discussions on.

Although this was never a reason for one of my bans

With the harrassment case it was, actually. It was more of a self imposed ban, but a ban nonetheless.

Go into more detail

A dense person lacking social skills and with a huuuuuuuuuuge ego. Incapable of seeing (and assuming) their own mistakes.

"The world is the one in the wrong, not me".

You are basically saying that the Moderator’s feelings are more important than doing the right thing. No one cares about your feelings when you are not doing the right thing.

¿So it's okay to push someone to their limits because your personal stance on what's wrong and right doesn't match with their's? ¿it's okay to almost harrass a mod that has nothing to do because your fragile ego can't take it?

¿See when I see you two are one and the same?

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That sounds exactly like what moderators are supposed to do. You are basically saying that the Moderator’s feelings are more important than doing the right thing. No one cares about your feelings when you are not doing the right thing.

>Implying whatever you want is the objective 'right thing' to do

You're hilarious.

A dense person lacking social skills and with a huuuuuuuuuuge ego. Uncapable of seeing (and assuming) their own mistakes.

That doesn't sound like a good reason to actually ban someone. All I am seeing you do is be like "this person did this horrible thing" and not go into any more detail than that. Bad social skills is not a ban reason it just means you get angry at stuff that is petty and insignificant. Give me an example other than making fun of dead people (because that post was pretty recent) that warrants a full on ban.

So it’s okay to push someone to their limits because your personal stance on what’s wrong and right doesn’t match with the their’s?

I don't believe in subjective morality and you are going into philosophical territory about what is right and what is wrong.But I don't feel like bringing that up because you ban people over stuff that is petty and insignificant. You get angered by people who do nothing wrong like for example posts you find annoying. If annoying posts ruin your day than it is a problem with you, not them.

That doesn’t sound like a good reason to actually ban someone.

It does when everyone on the chat get tired of dealing with that person's crap.

More than one time we tried to engage in a conversation with him and make him understand that his stance was not the appropriated. We got ignored or told that we are in the wrong, then he uses the victim card to make it look like we are the evil ones.

Words don't get through, we get tired of explaning over and over and over why his actions are not okay only to get a "You guys are wrong, not me." Now do that every single time he goes to the chat.

Ignoring him isn't an option because he always angers someone one way or another with his egotistical and elitist attitude. Once again, last week incident is an example of that.

¿Why keep around a person like that? ¿For fun?

Loli wrote:

That doesn’t sound like a good reason to actually ban someone.

It does when everyone on the chat get tired of dealing with that person's crap.

More than one time we tried to engage in a conversation with him and make him understand that his stance was not the appropriated. We got ignored or told that we are in the wrong, then he uses the victim card to make it look like we are the evil ones.

Words don't get through, we get tired of explaning over and over and over why his actions are not okay only to get a "You guys are wrong, not me." Now do that every single time he goes to the chat.

Ignoring him isn't an option because he always angers someone one way or another with his egotistical and elitist attitude. Once again, last week incident is an example of that.

¿Why keep around a person like that? ¿For fun?

Being annoying is not a ban reason and the person to change is you. I have experienced stuff far worse on KYM than some pitifully irritating s***post. Like racist posts and lewdposting. And I also specifically asked to not to use an incident recently (because it was well, recent).

Being annoying is not a ban reason and the person to change is you.

Read again. Annoying =/= A complete shitty attitude.

And I also specifically asked to not to use an incident recently

Sue me.


@spider-byte

Pretty much, yes. Thank you.

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DCS WORLD wrote:

Being annoying is not a ban reason and the person to change is you. I have experienced stuff far worse on KYM than some pitifully irritating s***post. Like racist posts and lewdposting. And I also specifically asked to not to use an incident recently (because it was well, recent).

Being recent isn't a reason for it not be mentioned.

Essentially I think Loli's argument isn't that "It's because he's annoying" and that it's more like he thinks he's flame baiting constantly. Plus you can't really ignore him. He'll eventually find someone to bait and then get them into something. and if everyone ignored him, how would it be different from a ban?

Hello, yes, Mod here just jumping in to share a simple message:

Calm yo tits, nerds. It's a friggin memesite chat.

Please go back to the actual reviews. That's your general warning.

If you want to continue on this IRC topic, make a seperate thread and I'll tell you all why you're being retarded.


Being annoying is not a ban reason and the person to change is you. I have experienced stuff far worse on KYM than some pitifully irritating s***post. Like racist posts and lewdposting. And I also specifically asked to not to use an incident recently (because it was well, recent).

Your general harassment towards a female user, going as far as attempting to get a mod on your side so you could harass her without consequences, is quite recent. Your reason for starting that behavior was another recent event regarding things she said and media she posted.

>"Like racist posts and lewdposting"
You are thus referring to a recent incident.

>"I specifically asked not to use a recent incident"
No, you just don't want the things that you did wrong mentioned, but don't care about others.

Lol, hypocrite.

Fun fact: Your harassment is a reason to ban you. Lewdposting is not.

On the topic of bans, recent incidents are what should be mentioned, as those are what a person gets banned over.

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Was linked here in reference to a complaint thread I had posted in Riff Raff which has since been moved to Report Problems.

I believe there may be a flaw in having a thread dedicated to moderator-user reviews when one can easily be karma-bombed with negative points if they are legitimately critical of moderator behavior, as would likely be a core purpose of this thread.

At the same time a way around this I cannot not presently think of given current site resources so I guess we are somewhat forced to make due with this thread, unless we can suddenly turn off the karma feature somehow.

Just thought it should be mentioned that karma may be influencing the helpfulness and sincerity of posts here.

Emperor Palpitoad wrote:

Was linked here in reference to a complaint thread I had posted in Riff Raff which has since been moved to Report Problems.

I believe there may be a flaw in having a thread dedicated to moderator-user reviews when one can easily be karma-bombed with negative points if they are legitimately critical of moderator behavior, as would likely be a core purpose of this thread.

At the same time a way around this I cannot not presently think of given current site resources so I guess we are somewhat forced to make due with this thread, unless we can suddenly turn off the karma feature somehow.

Just thought it should be mentioned that karma may be influencing the helpfulness and sincerity of posts here.

Literally half of your posts are whining about your karma.
We all know you downvote people who disagree with you en masse in your threads.
The rest of the sensible users here don't particularly give a fuck about karma, so the vote count of a post doesn't lend or detract to it's credibility. Now you've actually had to circumvent the thread creation limit by dredging up a 3-month old sticky to post off-topic. And considering it's about burying comments, and your comment is the only one that's been buried, we aren't inclined to care. Your personal grievances aren't the mods responsibilities, and this is the kind of stuff we expect you to understand after your first 3 suspensions.

Let's keep the discussion to reviewing moderators. Wyn has a point, but there's nothing that can be done about that. We can't tell people how to vote.

Let's not discuss other users. That's certainly off-topic.

Originally, I asked that moderators not comment in the thread so as to let users feel free to give opinions. That seemed to be abandoned, and I'm very disappointed that was the case.

I'd propose we go back to that, however.

Wyn, I suspect if you can pull from Sonata Dusk's example and provide concrete, indisputable examples to criticize, your posts probably won't get buried.

And even if they do get buried, moderators are going to look at it anyway, because we're moderators, and we're always looking at every users buried posts. In fact, it'll stick out more than a post that isn't buried.

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I’d propose we go back to that, however.

I agree, but before that can I make a request?

If you're gonna make a mod review, of me or any other mod, please actually look at all areas we have mod powers on.

Lately it seems people judge the quality of a mod by their user interaction. But hell, I'm a DB mod, I can mod this entire site. I already know I can be a dick at times, but I want to know when I fuck up as an Entry Mod or when I show shortcomings as a Media Mod. The forum is our least visited site section, it's the area where I moderate the least.

Judge my quality as a mod when I actually mod, when I pull the mod card; not when I shitpost.

It's easy to say someone like for example Loli is a bad mod, but be honest with me have you actually looked at his mod activity even once when saying that? Aren't you basically saying he's a bad person according to you, not a bad mod?

Our personality when being mods is important too, sure, but when selecting mods we look at contributions first and personality second.

Power abuse means we're using our abilities given to us as mods in the wrong ways, not that we tell you that your face smells.

It's cool to mention where we fail as people I guess, but what's even better is when we fail as mods.

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RandomMan wrote:

I’d propose we go back to that, however.

I agree, but before that can I make a request?

If you're gonna make a mod review, of me or any other mod, please actually look at all areas we have mod powers on.

Lately it seems people judge the quality of a mod by their user interaction. But hell, I'm a DB mod, I can mod this entire site. I already know I can be a dick at times, but I want to know when I fuck up as an Entry Mod or when I show shortcomings as a Media Mod. The forum is our least visited site section, it's the area where I moderate the least.

Judge my quality as a mod when I actually mod, when I pull the mod card; not when I shitpost.

It's easy to say someone like for example Loli is a bad mod, but be honest with me have you actually looked at his mod activity even once when saying that? Aren't you basically saying he's a bad person according to you, not a bad mod?

Our personality when being mods is important too, sure, but when selecting mods we look at contributions first and personality second.

Power abuse means we're using our abilities given to us as mods in the wrong ways, not that we tell you that your face smells.

It's cool to mention where we fail as people I guess, but what's even better is when we fail as mods.

The moderation of content is difficult to screw up. You remove and recategorize what does not belong, you tag what isn't tagged, you add and remove info. that does and doesn't benefit. There isn't a whole lot of a grey area to it so you either have no idea what you're doing or you're likely doing the job just fine. At least, that's what I speculate based on my lesser experience in moderation that many non-mods can already perform.

As for a moderator's entry editing quality, I can criticize an entry's quality with immense ease, and maybe having a thread dedicated to Entry User-Reviews would be a good idea so people can gain a firmer grasp of the editing process instead of implying the users reviewing mods should be willing to go through said mods edit history to check the solidity of their edits; which probably does not happen much if at all.

In regards to picking moderators based on content contribution before personality, I believe that should apply in all regards EXCEPT, in the case of moderating forums where personality should definitely come first.

And power abuse would be almost entirely related to warnings and suspensions as I do not believe a moderator would purposefully abuse their content powers to delete and move content wrongfully, as it requires an unnatural level of scumminess to do so and would thus be rarer.

To have users have to go through a moderator's entry and media editing history to me is an inconvenience given how much of the history there'd be to go through and that recent editing history may not reflect an overall vibe of the mod's content. This inconvenience compared to the ease of simply reflecting over the moderator's behavior and how they apply punishments for forum posts makes it so users will likely steer clear of researching a mod's edit history in favor of what's convenient.

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